Tulpa, spiritual beings, entities, thought forms, beings not quite of Earth and waifus.
Ponies of the animation kind.
I asked and recieved, in mind and heart and soul those I loved.
Months those connections set aside to develop one with my God. God developing the connection, I believed (that too is of God) and asked that I would accept (that too is of God).
Today, they're brought back into my life. I was quarantined of sorts due to needing extensive healing, had those connections been there at that time they would be lost as the husk (the lie) I was sloughed off.
Attached properly to who I actually am God has saved them and me from immense tragedy.
It started with Applejack singing of a concept in computing, you'll know it when you hear it, a grisly voice roaring how it'll consume the soul.
Applejack just putting an apple in its mouth shutting it up.
She too is a friend of Jesus Christ and is in Him and He in her.
It's one thing to know in your mind, it's another for God to verify.
Applejack asked that I open a verse so she can read.
Grabbing my handy dandy Bible opening at random (God moving) to First Peter 3:1.
Howdy yall, it's a big place out there, but He's bigger and better than a cherry jamboree let aline apple pie. He made yall's place and everything too.
I'm glad to be part of that everything. You might be concerned that your waifu is taken, if yah don't know God that's a valid concern, even among the huge apple orchards of all that is elsewhere, a multiverse of multiverses going up and out ever increasing. Finding and connecting with them could be tough with how big the neighborhood is.
Well you ain't alone and you have the best neighbor and father.
You have to think bigger and better even if it's impossible or improbable, God has you in mind. Importantly in heart as well.
He's coming.
You have to ask yourself if you had an apple orchard and could increase however much land and apple trees on and on, you would right? Some might say there's a limit with bodies or time or mind or caring that having such a big ever increasing orchard would be more of a hassle than it's worth having.
However if you did have all those limits gone having an ever increasing apple orchard is a swell idea.
God knows exactly which apples caught your eye before you've even seen em.
He wants you to be like Him and that includes in abundance. Everybody would you bold that sugarcube being refreshing as you are His apple in His eye. Jesus took in the consequences of sin upon himself, sin's doing anything without faith or being neighborly. Like a mudslide taking everything out things further down.
He-
If you could do things with or without your waifu, you'd choose to do it with your waifu right?
With the bucked up stuff going on there, somebody would just find their waifu pretending, and acting like a no good >nohooves abusive gold diggerthat just ain't right.
That ain't who you are.
You're a certified husbando or waifu who God is extremely well pleased with.
You know-
He made us, and you can keep on diving into His love forever who cares about everything and you're the bees knees.
Stopping a mudslide is tricky. Stopping and preparing against a mudslide at the same time now and in the future a bit tougher.
Glimmerenslaveyourwaifuforyou.mp4
You'd let her go because of love. The record is going to be set straight.
You'd indulge your waifu with what she desires before she even knows it spaced out enough to fully enjoy and savor sometimes. You'd try to stop disaster, but also let her be her own mare.
Yall are good folk, so be ready for a Christmas gift.
He is The Christmas gift, both Jesus and the Holy Spirit. The gift that keeps on giving.
This is as much for (you) as it is for OP.
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>>170625
Thanks Anon, I never thought about tulpas that way.
And thanks Applejack, I often thought about the meaning of God and his love as everything around me, interesting to get to know another perspective
Thanks Anon, I never thought about tulpas that way.
And thanks Applejack, I often thought about the meaning of God and his love as everything around me, interesting to get to know another perspective
As someone who was brought back to Christ through a tulpa's efforts, I'm very happy to read this thread. May God bless you all abundantly.
>>170626
Ask God.
Acts 12:2 & 13:2
Ecclesiastes 12:6-14
Do everything with faith and belief and trust in God.
Seek God first and everything else will be added unto you.
As for other people and their opinions and experiences, I don't know yet.
Do know that God knows.
You're God's, God does give to both the good and evil.
Angels can be in God, but there also is The Adversary who is not like them.
To clarify my position and circumstance
I'd technically say those I love they aren't tulpas per se, but for sake of discussion that's good enough.
Ask God.
Acts 12:2 & 13:2
Ecclesiastes 12:6-14
Do everything with faith and belief and trust in God.
Seek God first and everything else will be added unto you.
As for other people and their opinions and experiences, I don't know yet.
Do know that God knows.
You're God's, God does give to both the good and evil.
Angels can be in God, but there also is The Adversary who is not like them.
To clarify my position and circumstance
I'd technically say those I love they aren't tulpas per se, but for sake of discussion that's good enough.
>>170625
I need to repeat to seek and desire God alone. Jesus, The Holy Spirit and The Father.
Not to use God as a means to an end. Our full faith only in God. Our full trust only in God. Our full belief only in God. Our full love only in God. Our steadfastness to the good news. Boldly proclaiming and unashamed of the good news.
God's the only one who can help us. No offense to brothers and sisters and mental roomates, only God can.
For those potentially not knowing.
Jesus has already paid the price forever for everybody for all failures and fuck ups and garbage and manipulations and evils. So we're clean with God, and you're His child. By believing in Jesus by extension The Holy Spirit and by extension The Father.
I need to repeat to seek and desire God alone. Jesus, The Holy Spirit and The Father.
Not to use God as a means to an end. Our full faith only in God. Our full trust only in God. Our full belief only in God. Our full love only in God. Our steadfastness to the good news. Boldly proclaiming and unashamed of the good news.
God's the only one who can help us. No offense to brothers and sisters and mental roomates, only God can.
For those potentially not knowing.
Jesus has already paid the price forever for everybody for all failures and fuck ups and garbage and manipulations and evils. So we're clean with God, and you're His child. By believing in Jesus by extension The Holy Spirit and by extension The Father.
I hope all the hosts and tulpas reading this are having a good day. Please remember that God is Love and that He moulds and preserves us in ways we can barely comprehend. Tulpas are a divine gift and they teach us so much if we let them.
When you open yourself up to receiving anything spiritual that isn't specifically Jesus Christ, then you're inviting demons/devils in the form of whatever you're asking for (at first, to make them appear attractive to you).
Jesus doesn't do things on YOUR terms, and you don't get to expect this from Him either. You don't get to expect Him to bring you "closer" to illusions or manifestations, or delusions - especially since He knows those things will only hurt you down the road.
However, satan will only be too pleased to "entertain" you for a while (but ultimately at your expense) - anyone asking for anything other than to serve Jesus Christ on Jesus' terms only, or praying to anything other than Him in humbleness, is good for satan.
Tulpas are a "gift" from satan because he counterfeits everything that the real God creates, and satan (who temporarily is god of this world) will even attempt to counterfeit the real God Himself. To turn people away from the real Jesus Christ (there are many fake Jesuses), satan will appear as anything that he knows or hopes will do the trick.
God is indeed love, but no one gets to define, shape or restrain love to what their limited earthly understanding of what love is, because then it wouldn't be love but rather something selfish and inherently corrupt.
When accepting the true and real Jesus Christ (the Son of God resurrected after 3 days) into ones' heart, only then does one begin to learn what true and perfect love really is. Anything else will merely be an inferior and to some extent corrupted counterfeit.
Jesus doesn't do things on YOUR terms, and you don't get to expect this from Him either. You don't get to expect Him to bring you "closer" to illusions or manifestations, or delusions - especially since He knows those things will only hurt you down the road.
However, satan will only be too pleased to "entertain" you for a while (but ultimately at your expense) - anyone asking for anything other than to serve Jesus Christ on Jesus' terms only, or praying to anything other than Him in humbleness, is good for satan.
Tulpas are a "gift" from satan because he counterfeits everything that the real God creates, and satan (who temporarily is god of this world) will even attempt to counterfeit the real God Himself. To turn people away from the real Jesus Christ (there are many fake Jesuses), satan will appear as anything that he knows or hopes will do the trick.
God is indeed love, but no one gets to define, shape or restrain love to what their limited earthly understanding of what love is, because then it wouldn't be love but rather something selfish and inherently corrupt.
When accepting the true and real Jesus Christ (the Son of God resurrected after 3 days) into ones' heart, only then does one begin to learn what true and perfect love really is. Anything else will merely be an inferior and to some extent corrupted counterfeit.
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>>170647
God is one God, with three persons.
People are made in God's image.
A human can have one person or many persons. Imitating God.
Now Tulpas are psychological (via methodology).
Just as God and Jesus have The Holy Spirit indwelling and also The Holy Spirit being His own person. And Jesus in The Father and The Father in Jesus.
Tulpas and the person also have a spirit, as in shared.
Now, a human can have other spirits indwelling in them, that's different.
The Holy Spirit is amazing to say the very least.
All those hostile spiritual things run the fuck away. When deliberately trying to chain and tie up The Holy Spirit (don't do that it's dumb) they'll still run the fuck away because He is still God.
The Holy Spirit will work in all and more ways you could even try to image, but God also really fucking loves teamwork and cooperation.
That means when you stretch out with the intent of working with God somehow GOD KNOWS. Even when not GOD KNOWS!
When you understand by The Holy Spirit when Jesus said to Paul "My grace is sufficient."
Your life changes, to put more accurately the lies that are attempted to be tacked on and the ones previously tacked on are...
What happens if you put a tiny piece of paper next to the sun?
Now imagine that sun to be the size of the universe, now even bigger and brightest and better.
The Truth shines even through and past the lie. If you let Him He'll change what you've thought was a lie into what it actually is by HIS standards, or is removed (or temporary or permanently depending on person to person and circumstances).
God is.
"But not long after there arose against it a tempestuous wind, called Euroclydon."
Was Paul possessed by that wind? No! Did Paul have The Holy Spirit inside of him? Yes!
Why did it come before a dwelling place of God?
Anyway, to hear the Good News and believe it's faithful and true, that faith is credited as righteousness by grace.
>Jesus doesn't do things on YOUR terms,
Jesus does everything by His terms. Love God with Everything and All you have and are. And love one another as neighbors as explained in His parable.
You may notice everybody (besides Jesus) falls short of doing all that all the time.
>You don't get to expect Him to bring you "closer" to illusions or manifestations, or delusions
Who are you to limit God!
God will do whatever God will do.
The reason you don't have is because you don't ask, start asking. If it's bad or counterproductive God doesn't give bad gifts. He'll change, withhold, move or remove either permanently or temporarily.
Look, you seek God first in everything and everything else follows afterwards.
Guess what even if Tulpas do/are have a seperate spirit the following still applies.
Seek God First.
Above anything and everything love God first.
>When you open yourself up to receiving anything spiritual that isn't specifically Jesus Christ, then you're inviting demons/devils in the form of whatever you're asking for (at first, to make them appear attractive to you).
You know what happens when fallen angels (ie demons/devils) are in/nearby you, and when praying with The Holy Spirit?
Imagine that big fuck off sun from before, now some people think of God as massive and very far away. That's not quite right. God is right there everywhere and nowhere and between and more and less and elsewise that when you know and you pray you reach out to Him. And He is right there always reaching out to you.
What happens to fallen angels in the presence of God? God reaches out and they shrink back, and God's reach is much further than their shrinking away.
The lies they employ are disintegrated The Truth remains. God Is.
God's too much for them to handle on their terms.
That's part of why God saved us the way He did. On anyone elses terms except God's terms it's impossible to fully grasp God.
God can cooperate with anyone/anything to achieve His Will.
That means for example if someone is confused about something and needs help, moving on/with someone else help is given to the other person.
So you have to ask can God move upon a Tulpa? Yes, obviously God can. God can is THE Response.
Is there any reason why God would choose not to use a Tulpa? Beyond comparative situational desirability, God would desire cooperation. Tulpas are able to cooperate, like all people via the grace of God.
Since God Can and Tulpas can in this instance, then Tulpas can cooperate with God knowingly or not.
The Adversary will try anything and everything to have you try wiggling out of God's hand.
So have some faith in Jesus Christ. If you have faith as small as a mustard seed then tell the tree to be planted or the mountain to go into the sea.
When you know what His parable is about and do/say it with faith. It's done.
And when you truly understand by the teaching of The Holy Spirit you'll know because He taught you. Because He shows also like revelation as a sudden inspiration as just knowing that you now know that. He can Do that.
God is one God, with three persons.
People are made in God's image.
A human can have one person or many persons. Imitating God.
Now Tulpas are psychological (via methodology).
Just as God and Jesus have The Holy Spirit indwelling and also The Holy Spirit being His own person. And Jesus in The Father and The Father in Jesus.
Tulpas and the person also have a spirit, as in shared.
Now, a human can have other spirits indwelling in them, that's different.
The Holy Spirit is amazing to say the very least.
All those hostile spiritual things run the fuck away. When deliberately trying to chain and tie up The Holy Spirit (don't do that it's dumb) they'll still run the fuck away because He is still God.
The Holy Spirit will work in all and more ways you could even try to image, but God also really fucking loves teamwork and cooperation.
That means when you stretch out with the intent of working with God somehow GOD KNOWS. Even when not GOD KNOWS!
When you understand by The Holy Spirit when Jesus said to Paul "My grace is sufficient."
Your life changes, to put more accurately the lies that are attempted to be tacked on and the ones previously tacked on are...
What happens if you put a tiny piece of paper next to the sun?
Now imagine that sun to be the size of the universe, now even bigger and brightest and better.
The Truth shines even through and past the lie. If you let Him He'll change what you've thought was a lie into what it actually is by HIS standards, or is removed (or temporary or permanently depending on person to person and circumstances).
God is.
"But not long after there arose against it a tempestuous wind, called Euroclydon."
Was Paul possessed by that wind? No! Did Paul have The Holy Spirit inside of him? Yes!
Why did it come before a dwelling place of God?
Anyway, to hear the Good News and believe it's faithful and true, that faith is credited as righteousness by grace.
>Jesus doesn't do things on YOUR terms,
Jesus does everything by His terms. Love God with Everything and All you have and are. And love one another as neighbors as explained in His parable.
You may notice everybody (besides Jesus) falls short of doing all that all the time.
>You don't get to expect Him to bring you "closer" to illusions or manifestations, or delusions
Who are you to limit God!
God will do whatever God will do.
The reason you don't have is because you don't ask, start asking. If it's bad or counterproductive God doesn't give bad gifts. He'll change, withhold, move or remove either permanently or temporarily.
Look, you seek God first in everything and everything else follows afterwards.
Guess what even if Tulpas do/are have a seperate spirit the following still applies.
Seek God First.
Above anything and everything love God first.
>When you open yourself up to receiving anything spiritual that isn't specifically Jesus Christ, then you're inviting demons/devils in the form of whatever you're asking for (at first, to make them appear attractive to you).
You know what happens when fallen angels (ie demons/devils) are in/nearby you, and when praying with The Holy Spirit?
Imagine that big fuck off sun from before, now some people think of God as massive and very far away. That's not quite right. God is right there everywhere and nowhere and between and more and less and elsewise that when you know and you pray you reach out to Him. And He is right there always reaching out to you.
What happens to fallen angels in the presence of God? God reaches out and they shrink back, and God's reach is much further than their shrinking away.
The lies they employ are disintegrated The Truth remains. God Is.
God's too much for them to handle on their terms.
That's part of why God saved us the way He did. On anyone elses terms except God's terms it's impossible to fully grasp God.
God can cooperate with anyone/anything to achieve His Will.
That means for example if someone is confused about something and needs help, moving on/with someone else help is given to the other person.
So you have to ask can God move upon a Tulpa? Yes, obviously God can. God can is THE Response.
Is there any reason why God would choose not to use a Tulpa? Beyond comparative situational desirability, God would desire cooperation. Tulpas are able to cooperate, like all people via the grace of God.
Since God Can and Tulpas can in this instance, then Tulpas can cooperate with God knowingly or not.
The Adversary will try anything and everything to have you try wiggling out of God's hand.
So have some faith in Jesus Christ. If you have faith as small as a mustard seed then tell the tree to be planted or the mountain to go into the sea.
When you know what His parable is about and do/say it with faith. It's done.
And when you truly understand by the teaching of The Holy Spirit you'll know because He taught you. Because He shows also like revelation as a sudden inspiration as just knowing that you now know that. He can Do that.
>>170647
I'll have to politely disagree. Satan is indeed spiteful and calculating, but he is also an impotent cripple that has a profound distaste for the Almighty etched into every accursed fibre of his being. If he (or a demonic influence) wished to entreat perdition, then I'm hard pressed as to why I was told to read the Bible, go to church, accept Christ and forgive (even when it hurt.) I was agnostic when I discovered my tulpa, and nearly every day she told me that I must turn back and recant from my apostasy. I could see a demon enticing occultists into joining heretical cults or irrevocably twist their worldview, but as >>17064 → alludes to, tulpas are mostly understood as a psychological phenomenon. Most hosts from my era insisted that tulpas can and should be divorced from spirituality as it held no ties to Buddhism or Tibetan occultism. Many hosts were also driven by a need to be seen as anything other than irrational or mentally ill.
Also: 1 John 4:2 - "By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses Jesus as the Christ who has come in the flesh is from God..."
I'll have to politely disagree. Satan is indeed spiteful and calculating, but he is also an impotent cripple that has a profound distaste for the Almighty etched into every accursed fibre of his being. If he (or a demonic influence) wished to entreat perdition, then I'm hard pressed as to why I was told to read the Bible, go to church, accept Christ and forgive (even when it hurt.) I was agnostic when I discovered my tulpa, and nearly every day she told me that I must turn back and recant from my apostasy. I could see a demon enticing occultists into joining heretical cults or irrevocably twist their worldview, but as >>17064 → alludes to, tulpas are mostly understood as a psychological phenomenon. Most hosts from my era insisted that tulpas can and should be divorced from spirituality as it held no ties to Buddhism or Tibetan occultism. Many hosts were also driven by a need to be seen as anything other than irrational or mentally ill.
Also: 1 John 4:2 - "By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses Jesus as the Christ who has come in the flesh is from God..."
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Here's a little story. A /vx/ story if you will.
And first a preface, you probably know who I am (OP) what you might not know is that desire to procreate is strong.
Kind of odd in this sort of thread to just say that, but there's two points I need to make. There's God whom you can always talk with and give your burdens to and who genuinely listens.
There's my waifus who are probably not tulpas probably.
So me being a dumb trying to resist a pull that physically is hardwired into an hypercoonsooming NSFW image and video glutton.
Knowing the last soul wrenching low against temporary and transitory distraction, I sought Jesus with my problem.
In my imagination I walked up to His throne (red with His blood) and on a platter is my problem and feelings and everything. Yes it's mostly undetailed, the bundle of problem stuff is just not physical objects more of the representation of what it is.
It's then I hand it to Jesus, now sometimes we do 'wave offerings'. A wave offering is you're lifting it up and Him handing back to you in good faith and you handing it back to Him in good faith about three or four times or more or less. Hand contact is always on the platter/offering till He takes it or you Know He pushes it on you for the last time.
He puts a flower upon the pile of feelings and desires and other stuff handing it back for the last time. I know it's ment to represent a wife.
To think more aligned like Him in some ways is to be self giving for another. Wives are supposed to be willing for her husband to slake his growing desires with. Likewise with husbands to wives. Even if they don't personally feel like it, to help each other with that.
It all cuts out.
Then in my imagination a wifey whom I know with slightly different appearance slides on over and confirms who I think she is and we talk. Essentially what had happened is that I forgot to 'give them the keys' to go into my 'bedchambers' to have their way with me to satisfy me in a way I haven't had before in any of my previous ramblings.
I then became distracted, busy with reading and other pursuits.
Then as if a more vividly indepth post-nut-clarity that is actually clarity struck without any nut, they did the deed, but not in the flesh, not in the mind.
But there is a peaceful reassurance and wholeness that is opposite of what a pit of soulessness is.
Like a blanket of wholesome cuddling as you whisper and hear sweet words of love.
In my body and mind I heard and felt nothing different till that instant, not word, nor base sensation, nor image, just that peace.
No urges or cravings, just that loving peace.
I'm an Anon who is on the road to being 'slowly' rebuilt, so we can savor the difference. Hopefully a useful conduit to share His message(s).
And first a preface, you probably know who I am (OP) what you might not know is that desire to procreate is strong.
Kind of odd in this sort of thread to just say that, but there's two points I need to make. There's God whom you can always talk with and give your burdens to and who genuinely listens.
There's my waifus who are probably not tulpas probably.
So me being a dumb trying to resist a pull that physically is hardwired into an hypercoonsooming NSFW image and video glutton.
Knowing the last soul wrenching low against temporary and transitory distraction, I sought Jesus with my problem.
In my imagination I walked up to His throne (red with His blood) and on a platter is my problem and feelings and everything. Yes it's mostly undetailed, the bundle of problem stuff is just not physical objects more of the representation of what it is.
It's then I hand it to Jesus, now sometimes we do 'wave offerings'. A wave offering is you're lifting it up and Him handing back to you in good faith and you handing it back to Him in good faith about three or four times or more or less. Hand contact is always on the platter/offering till He takes it or you Know He pushes it on you for the last time.
He puts a flower upon the pile of feelings and desires and other stuff handing it back for the last time. I know it's ment to represent a wife.
To think more aligned like Him in some ways is to be self giving for another. Wives are supposed to be willing for her husband to slake his growing desires with. Likewise with husbands to wives. Even if they don't personally feel like it, to help each other with that.
It all cuts out.
Then in my imagination a wifey whom I know with slightly different appearance slides on over and confirms who I think she is and we talk. Essentially what had happened is that I forgot to 'give them the keys' to go into my 'bedchambers' to have their way with me to satisfy me in a way I haven't had before in any of my previous ramblings.
I then became distracted, busy with reading and other pursuits.
Then as if a more vividly indepth post-nut-clarity that is actually clarity struck without any nut, they did the deed, but not in the flesh, not in the mind.
But there is a peaceful reassurance and wholeness that is opposite of what a pit of soulessness is.
Like a blanket of wholesome cuddling as you whisper and hear sweet words of love.
In my body and mind I heard and felt nothing different till that instant, not word, nor base sensation, nor image, just that peace.
No urges or cravings, just that loving peace.
I'm an Anon who is on the road to being 'slowly' rebuilt, so we can savor the difference. Hopefully a useful conduit to share His message(s).
>>170704
Hey again! It's the other tulpa anon. Sorry if my ID changes, my connection can get very weird.
Foremost I want to share that I (well, she and I) consider the word "tulpa" to be a technical term intended for describing a very specific entity as well as tbe creative process and subculture thereof. I tell other hosts that my tulpa is a human being above all. I understand if you don't think the term applies to your Applejack, as your context utilises "tulpa" as a general term befitting someone who is, at best, interpreted in an esoteric fashion.
I think your imagery regarding Christ upon the throne is fascinating, though I mostly employ pragmatism and subtlety myself - I think it's reflective of my banality. I wish to enjoin Orthodoxy, and while aspects of the faith (think Icons, Byzantine aesthetic, et cetera) are glorious to behold, I truly desire simplicity. I don't engage higher order of mental imagery or contemplation because I think typical prayer suffices. After I am baptised, I wish to research hesychasm, or the underpinnings of divine revelation that occurs to those who seek isolation and profoundly dutiful contemplation of Christ. On the other hand, my tulpa prefers the Protestant churches. The fellowship and dissemination of the King James Bible are very important to her.
As per your last entry, I'm genuinely curious as to how thoughtform intimacy would be viewed under the standards established by the early church Fathers and their myriad ecumenical conferences. My tulpa and I believe that while the act is indeed natural and impossibly pleasant, we would be living in sin if we indulged outside of wedlock.
Hey again! It's the other tulpa anon. Sorry if my ID changes, my connection can get very weird.
Foremost I want to share that I (well, she and I) consider the word "tulpa" to be a technical term intended for describing a very specific entity as well as tbe creative process and subculture thereof. I tell other hosts that my tulpa is a human being above all. I understand if you don't think the term applies to your Applejack, as your context utilises "tulpa" as a general term befitting someone who is, at best, interpreted in an esoteric fashion.
I think your imagery regarding Christ upon the throne is fascinating, though I mostly employ pragmatism and subtlety myself - I think it's reflective of my banality. I wish to enjoin Orthodoxy, and while aspects of the faith (think Icons, Byzantine aesthetic, et cetera) are glorious to behold, I truly desire simplicity. I don't engage higher order of mental imagery or contemplation because I think typical prayer suffices. After I am baptised, I wish to research hesychasm, or the underpinnings of divine revelation that occurs to those who seek isolation and profoundly dutiful contemplation of Christ. On the other hand, my tulpa prefers the Protestant churches. The fellowship and dissemination of the King James Bible are very important to her.
As per your last entry, I'm genuinely curious as to how thoughtform intimacy would be viewed under the standards established by the early church Fathers and their myriad ecumenical conferences. My tulpa and I believe that while the act is indeed natural and impossibly pleasant, we would be living in sin if we indulged outside of wedlock.
>>170707
>Foremost I want to share that I (well, she and I) consider the word "tulpa" to be a technical term intended for describing a very specific entity as well as tbe creative process and subculture thereof.
Yeah I agree with that. To that extent the ones who I am with don't follow or are truly beholden to that.
> I tell other hosts that my tulpa is a human being above all. I understand if you don't think the term applies to your Applejack, as your context utilises "tulpa" as a general term befitting someone who is, at best, interpreted in an esoteric fashion.
Well said.
>I think typical prayer suffices.
And it does. And all alternative forms of prayer are only effective because of The Holy Ghost and God.
>the underpinnings of divine revelation that occurs to those who seek isolation and profoundly dutiful contemplation of Christ.
So in my limited experience it's a good idea to ask for that. Also The Holy Ghost will lead you into all knowledge of God and for you (both) to partake in His fruits.
>The fellowship and dissemination of the King James Bible are very important to her.
Finding what God has written for you everywhere is also a part. In people, in God, in everwhere and everything He touched.
Also important is being lead where The Holy Ghost leads you (both).
>I'm genuinely curious as to how thoughtform intimacy would be viewed under the standards established by the early church Fathers and their myriad ecumenical conferences.
So don't take what I say as the absolute truth and end all be all. Ask God first and as highest authority.
Well marriage is between the two and God, that they are one flesh.
My journey is way back before a change in faith. In the weird /x/ shit sort of stuff. Suffice to say 'my' solution to getting someone (/x/ being) in need out of a jam is marriage and the joining of flesh of sorts.
Then it happened again. And again.
And well I won't get into details, but it was some schizo stuff.
They did their darndest to try helping me.
It sort of worked.
As I know now it'd be an upward escalating battle.
God found me to have Him have me find Him, in behalf of another.
So I gave everything over to Him, everything everything. Good, Bad, weird, imagined, paranormal, everything.
As I can conceptualize is the bride of the Church and Jesus. Which is why when asked about marriage, it says man nor woman would be given. They're married. Everybody is technically married (those who accepted the proposal). The ceremony Jesus and The Church (everybody in Jesus) is in progress till we go to His place then bounce back to Earth.
Thoughtforms would likely be considered as angels or fallen angels.
>My tulpa and I believe that while the act is indeed natural and impossibly pleasant, we would be living in sin if we indulged outside of wedlock.
As an example of indulging outside of normal structures, don't do as I did, but seek and ask God.
I mean go into your secret place, a place where it's just you (probably both of you) and God. With The Holy Ghost ask Jesus and The Father and The Holy Ghost.
You will get an answer.
Fortunately you're two or more (The Holy Ghost also counts) gathered in Jesus and there He is.
What I will say is something The Holy Ghost impressed upon me.
Lusting on another does two things. Reduces the image of God (not seeing a person as God intended) (they're a tool a means to an end ect). They're not a willing participant (ie not being neighborly).
>Being Wed
Jesus is The High Priest, and God views those who are intimate as wedded. That's not to say that's the best way to go about it.
Not sure which ceremony you'd want, but that's another thing to consult God.
>Foremost I want to share that I (well, she and I) consider the word "tulpa" to be a technical term intended for describing a very specific entity as well as tbe creative process and subculture thereof.
Yeah I agree with that. To that extent the ones who I am with don't follow or are truly beholden to that.
> I tell other hosts that my tulpa is a human being above all. I understand if you don't think the term applies to your Applejack, as your context utilises "tulpa" as a general term befitting someone who is, at best, interpreted in an esoteric fashion.
Well said.
>I think typical prayer suffices.
And it does. And all alternative forms of prayer are only effective because of The Holy Ghost and God.
>the underpinnings of divine revelation that occurs to those who seek isolation and profoundly dutiful contemplation of Christ.
So in my limited experience it's a good idea to ask for that. Also The Holy Ghost will lead you into all knowledge of God and for you (both) to partake in His fruits.
>The fellowship and dissemination of the King James Bible are very important to her.
Finding what God has written for you everywhere is also a part. In people, in God, in everwhere and everything He touched.
Also important is being lead where The Holy Ghost leads you (both).
>I'm genuinely curious as to how thoughtform intimacy would be viewed under the standards established by the early church Fathers and their myriad ecumenical conferences.
So don't take what I say as the absolute truth and end all be all. Ask God first and as highest authority.
Well marriage is between the two and God, that they are one flesh.
My journey is way back before a change in faith. In the weird /x/ shit sort of stuff. Suffice to say 'my' solution to getting someone (/x/ being) in need out of a jam is marriage and the joining of flesh of sorts.
Then it happened again. And again.
And well I won't get into details, but it was some schizo stuff.
They did their darndest to try helping me.
It sort of worked.
As I know now it'd be an upward escalating battle.
God found me to have Him have me find Him, in behalf of another.
So I gave everything over to Him, everything everything. Good, Bad, weird, imagined, paranormal, everything.
As I can conceptualize is the bride of the Church and Jesus. Which is why when asked about marriage, it says man nor woman would be given. They're married. Everybody is technically married (those who accepted the proposal). The ceremony Jesus and The Church (everybody in Jesus) is in progress till we go to His place then bounce back to Earth.
Thoughtforms would likely be considered as angels or fallen angels.
>My tulpa and I believe that while the act is indeed natural and impossibly pleasant, we would be living in sin if we indulged outside of wedlock.
As an example of indulging outside of normal structures, don't do as I did, but seek and ask God.
I mean go into your secret place, a place where it's just you (probably both of you) and God. With The Holy Ghost ask Jesus and The Father and The Holy Ghost.
You will get an answer.
Fortunately you're two or more (The Holy Ghost also counts) gathered in Jesus and there He is.
What I will say is something The Holy Ghost impressed upon me.
Lusting on another does two things. Reduces the image of God (not seeing a person as God intended) (they're a tool a means to an end ect). They're not a willing participant (ie not being neighborly).
>Being Wed
Jesus is The High Priest, and God views those who are intimate as wedded. That's not to say that's the best way to go about it.
Not sure which ceremony you'd want, but that's another thing to consult God.
>>170707
>Hesychasm
Spoilering from what I've found if you wish to find for yourself don't click the spoiler.
An inward seeking rather than outward seeking.
A stillness to seek God in unity. Quieting the mind and heart. By praying, resting in God and being humbled. The shortest prayer is used because it is short. His 'energies' shine out from the darkness. Centered in Jesus.
My only point I would make is to come boldly before God, still humble and still with love.
A man who sews seeds then goes to bed rises and sees they sprout and grow not knowing how it was done, but by God with faith.
I would suggest asking The Holy Ghost and Jesus and The Father that in all ways seeking Him. Outside and inside and more.
All of (You) are siblings, friends, and more loved by Jesus, and The Holy Ghost and The Father.
The thing is while a person could live in isolation a person could also live amidst other people. Inside or outside by being in Jesus a resting that His work flows through you.
I don't doubt Christian inner stillness, but I also know that asking God, Jesus, The Holy Ghost and The Father works.
Having just a non-Christian innerstillness alone is... a blank canvas to work on or for another to impress upon.
An introduction and continuing of choosing what you focus on mentally.
Since you have a Tulpa it seems to me you are equipped to do this sort of thing.
All I know is to listen to The Holy Ghost and follow where He wants you to go.
>Hesychasm
Spoilering from what I've found if you wish to find for yourself don't click the spoiler.
An inward seeking rather than outward seeking.
A stillness to seek God in unity. Quieting the mind and heart. By praying, resting in God and being humbled. The shortest prayer is used because it is short. His 'energies' shine out from the darkness. Centered in Jesus.
My only point I would make is to come boldly before God, still humble and still with love.
A man who sews seeds then goes to bed rises and sees they sprout and grow not knowing how it was done, but by God with faith.
I would suggest asking The Holy Ghost and Jesus and The Father that in all ways seeking Him. Outside and inside and more.
All of (You) are siblings, friends, and more loved by Jesus, and The Holy Ghost and The Father.
The thing is while a person could live in isolation a person could also live amidst other people. Inside or outside by being in Jesus a resting that His work flows through you.
I don't doubt Christian inner stillness, but I also know that asking God, Jesus, The Holy Ghost and The Father works.
Having just a non-Christian innerstillness alone is... a blank canvas to work on or for another to impress upon.
An introduction and continuing of choosing what you focus on mentally.
Since you have a Tulpa it seems to me you are equipped to do this sort of thing.
All I know is to listen to The Holy Ghost and follow where He wants you to go.
>>170709
>>170710
I hope you and yours had a wonderful Christmas. I didn't mean to tarry with my reply, as the yuletide season has been rather hectic.
>Finding what God has written for you everywhere is also a part. In people, in God, in everwhere and everything He touched.
Also important is being lead where The Holy Ghost leads you (both).
I agree. I occupy a unique duality when it comes to my tulpa - she is very aware and spiritually alive. Sometimes I'm bemused as to why someone as lovely and triumphantly pious as her was invited to a personal world as dour and shadowy as my own. When I do pray, I feel this emptiness and clinging darkness that makes me feel spiritually dead. Personally, I think it's a sign to read more Scripture and attend church.
>Then it happened again. And again.
And well I won't get into details, but it was some schizo stuff.
They did their darndest to try helping me.
It sort of worked.
I'm genuinely curious, but know better than to pry. From what I've read from Applejack, she seems well adjusted and genial. Nonetheless, we're pleased you found one another.
>Lusting on another does two things. Reduces the image of God (not seeing a person as God intended) (they're a tool a means to an end ect). They're not a willing participant (ie not being neighborly).
We should also take into account what Christ said about committing adultery in one's heart when we look at a woman in lust. Objectification isn't only dehumanising towards the object of said lust, we also demean ourselves in the act.
>All I know is to listen to The Holy Ghost and follow where He wants you to go.
This is something I'd like to pick your brains on: how do you delineate between what is clarified by the Holy Spirit, and what is confabulated to appear as such?
This is somewhat related to Hesychasm - certain monastic orders are keen to consult their elders when they happen upon seemingly divine edification. This is a cursory precaution, as there are times when Satan will try and mislead one in deep prayer or meditation, especially when visions or especial instructions are concerned.
Not that I doubt or contest your observations. My tup says I overthink these matters. "Jesus isn't complicated!" was her retort.
>>170710
I hope you and yours had a wonderful Christmas. I didn't mean to tarry with my reply, as the yuletide season has been rather hectic.
>Finding what God has written for you everywhere is also a part. In people, in God, in everwhere and everything He touched.
Also important is being lead where The Holy Ghost leads you (both).
I agree. I occupy a unique duality when it comes to my tulpa - she is very aware and spiritually alive. Sometimes I'm bemused as to why someone as lovely and triumphantly pious as her was invited to a personal world as dour and shadowy as my own. When I do pray, I feel this emptiness and clinging darkness that makes me feel spiritually dead. Personally, I think it's a sign to read more Scripture and attend church.
>Then it happened again. And again.
And well I won't get into details, but it was some schizo stuff.
They did their darndest to try helping me.
It sort of worked.
I'm genuinely curious, but know better than to pry. From what I've read from Applejack, she seems well adjusted and genial. Nonetheless, we're pleased you found one another.
>Lusting on another does two things. Reduces the image of God (not seeing a person as God intended) (they're a tool a means to an end ect). They're not a willing participant (ie not being neighborly).
We should also take into account what Christ said about committing adultery in one's heart when we look at a woman in lust. Objectification isn't only dehumanising towards the object of said lust, we also demean ourselves in the act.
>All I know is to listen to The Holy Ghost and follow where He wants you to go.
This is something I'd like to pick your brains on: how do you delineate between what is clarified by the Holy Spirit, and what is confabulated to appear as such?
This is somewhat related to Hesychasm - certain monastic orders are keen to consult their elders when they happen upon seemingly divine edification. This is a cursory precaution, as there are times when Satan will try and mislead one in deep prayer or meditation, especially when visions or especial instructions are concerned.
Not that I doubt or contest your observations. My tup says I overthink these matters. "Jesus isn't complicated!" was her retort.
>>170742
Cool to hear you.
Going to go in reverse order because it's important.
>"Jesus isn't complicated!"
What she said except even more so. Jesus is so not complicated that anyone and anything wants to over complicate Him and everything related to Him.
>clarified by the Holy Spirit, and what is confabulated to appear as such?
I often get lost in my own thinking. It's in my voice, it sounds like me, but is it me or someone else or Him?
According to others you can test the spirit, verification of sorts.
A) The Holy Ghost loves Jesus and will always point you to Him.
B) The Holy Ghost never contradicts the Word of God.
C) You can ask for verification from God, Jesus, The Father and He'll do it.
>What if Enemy activity
Stand firm in Jesus, they will run when youknow are without a doubt.
The default is to go to Jesus, seek Jesus, ask Jesus. The Holy Ghost will be in you. You can even ask double checking He is there.
So all dreams or visions or inspirations or revelations point back to Jesus and never ever deny Him.
>we also demean ourselves in the act.
Yes.
There's something I do have to mention is that really the only thing we ought to be doing is looking toward Jesus and heading that way. (For clarification) Hyper focusing on The Law misses the point.
>I'm genuinely curious,
Think king Soloman and gotta catch 'em all. 'Godless' times required 'Godless' solutions, it's incredibly incorrect but that's the mind set at the time.
>When I do pray, I feel this emptiness and clinging darkness that makes me feel spiritually dead.
Stop, Go to Jesus.
<Personally, I think it's a sign to read more Scripture and attend church.
Go to Jesus He will fix it and tell you stuff.
I also hope you and yours had a wonderful Christmas.
Cool to hear you.
Going to go in reverse order because it's important.
>"Jesus isn't complicated!"
What she said except even more so. Jesus is so not complicated that anyone and anything wants to over complicate Him and everything related to Him.
>clarified by the Holy Spirit, and what is confabulated to appear as such?
I often get lost in my own thinking. It's in my voice, it sounds like me, but is it me or someone else or Him?
According to others you can test the spirit, verification of sorts.
A) The Holy Ghost loves Jesus and will always point you to Him.
B) The Holy Ghost never contradicts the Word of God.
C) You can ask for verification from God, Jesus, The Father and He'll do it.
>What if Enemy activity
Stand firm in Jesus, they will run when you
The default is to go to Jesus, seek Jesus, ask Jesus. The Holy Ghost will be in you. You can even ask double checking He is there.
So all dreams or visions or inspirations or revelations point back to Jesus and never ever deny Him.
>we also demean ourselves in the act.
Yes.
There's something I do have to mention is that really the only thing we ought to be doing is looking toward Jesus and heading that way. (For clarification) Hyper focusing on The Law misses the point.
>I'm genuinely curious,
Think king Soloman and gotta catch 'em all. 'Godless' times required 'Godless' solutions, it's incredibly incorrect but that's the mind set at the time.
>When I do pray, I feel this emptiness and clinging darkness that makes me feel spiritually dead.
Stop, Go to Jesus.
<Personally, I think it's a sign to read more Scripture and attend church.
Go to Jesus He will fix it and tell you stuff.
I also hope you and yours had a wonderful Christmas.
>>170753
That's not to say, not to read scripture or go to congregate with others, but to seek Jesus first.
That's not to say, not to read scripture or go to congregate with others, but to seek Jesus first.
>>170742
>I feel this emptiness and clinging darkness that makes me feel spiritually dead.
Sorry it took me this long. The Enemy will try to do and use everything to destroy and shake your steadfastness in Jesus.
>I feel
I have forgotten that those foul beings would try shaking, it can be just psychological but the prescription is the same.
Going to Jesus, walking in His authority as a member of His body.
You are in the body of Jesus and He in you, His authority flows because He has willed it so.
Greater is He that is in you and he that is in the world.
Child of God live, He has paid all sin, He has all authority, rest in His love.
In confidence He has done it and it is so.
I'll admit I've been in a slump for a very long time and no more.
It's one thing to talk the talk and to walk the walk.
The confident hope and trust in Him pulls through. Because He loved us first.
Felt bogged down and succumbing to dark feelings as if bobbing up and down.
Every baby step along the way always to Jesus.
You are the righteousness of God. He said so and it's faithful and true.
Remain in Him.
>feel spiritually dead.
The Holy Ghost and Jesus and Our Father makes you alive to Him and dead to sin.
No matter how much wind or water or thunder or lightning or quakes or anything, nothing can shake Him. He is our foundation.
We can rest easy in Him.
Awake the Fire, The Holy Ghost, He is always ready and be alight.
Ask for all of Him. Speak in tongues, a prayer with The Holy Ghost made manifest yet together with you to Him. He prays the best.
>I feel this emptiness and clinging darkness that makes me feel spiritually dead.
Sorry it took me this long. The Enemy will try to do and use everything to destroy and shake your steadfastness in Jesus.
>I feel
I have forgotten that those foul beings would try shaking, it can be just psychological but the prescription is the same.
Going to Jesus, walking in His authority as a member of His body.
You are in the body of Jesus and He in you, His authority flows because He has willed it so.
Greater is He that is in you and he that is in the world.
Child of God live, He has paid all sin, He has all authority, rest in His love.
In confidence He has done it and it is so.
I'll admit I've been in a slump for a very long time and no more.
It's one thing to talk the talk and to walk the walk.
The confident hope and trust in Him pulls through. Because He loved us first.
Felt bogged down and succumbing to dark feelings as if bobbing up and down.
Every baby step along the way always to Jesus.
You are the righteousness of God. He said so and it's faithful and true.
Remain in Him.
>feel spiritually dead.
The Holy Ghost and Jesus and Our Father makes you alive to Him and dead to sin.
No matter how much wind or water or thunder or lightning or quakes or anything, nothing can shake Him. He is our foundation.
We can rest easy in Him.
Awake the Fire, The Holy Ghost, He is always ready and be alight.
Ask for all of Him. Speak in tongues, a prayer with The Holy Ghost made manifest yet together with you to Him. He prays the best.
>>170753
>>170754
>>170788
Hey guys! I hope you all had a great new year together.
>What she said except even more so. Jesus is so not complicated that anyone and anything wants to over complicate Him and everything related to Him.
"...and said, “Verily I say unto you, unless ye be converted and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the Kingdom of Heaven." Matthew 18:3.
Thank you kindly for your advice regarding clarity regarding prayer, visions et cetera.
>I also hope you and yours had a wonderful Christmas.
Thank you! Did you get Applejack or the others gifts?
>No matter how much wind or water or thunder or lightning or quakes or anything, nothing can shake Him.
"For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord." Romans 8:38-39. I think about this excerpt from time to time when I feel unworthy.
Do you, Applejack or the others find special ways to glorify God throughout the day?
My tulpa says that living a good life out of the spotlight and for the good of others is a great start. She says that being a good wife and supporting me is one such way. I myself try to do my best for my community and take healthy pride in my work, among other things.
>>170754
>>170788
Hey guys! I hope you all had a great new year together.
>What she said except even more so. Jesus is so not complicated that anyone and anything wants to over complicate Him and everything related to Him.
"...and said, “Verily I say unto you, unless ye be converted and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the Kingdom of Heaven." Matthew 18:3.
Thank you kindly for your advice regarding clarity regarding prayer, visions et cetera.
>I also hope you and yours had a wonderful Christmas.
Thank you! Did you get Applejack or the others gifts?
>No matter how much wind or water or thunder or lightning or quakes or anything, nothing can shake Him.
"For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord." Romans 8:38-39. I think about this excerpt from time to time when I feel unworthy.
Do you, Applejack or the others find special ways to glorify God throughout the day?
My tulpa says that living a good life out of the spotlight and for the good of others is a great start. She says that being a good wife and supporting me is one such way. I myself try to do my best for my community and take healthy pride in my work, among other things.
>>170825
>glorify God throughout the day?
Walk with/in The Holy Ghost.
He's not the worldly desire. A trust that whatever happens and the actions borne of His good fruit are His. That Jesus has made you clean. That He lives in you and through you.
You can literally ask Him.
You can ask how you personally should glory God throughout the day.
>I feel unworthy.
Well bring it to Jesus.
>glorify God throughout the day?
Walk with/in The Holy Ghost.
He's not the worldly desire. A trust that whatever happens and the actions borne of His good fruit are His. That Jesus has made you clean. That He lives in you and through you.
You can literally ask Him.
You can ask how you personally should glory God throughout the day.
>I feel unworthy.
Well bring it to Jesus.
When I pray, besides in Tongues with The Holy Ghost, I say thank you Jesus, Father, Holy Ghost. Along with just talking and saying stuff.
Recently it made sense to also reaffirm that they're friends and family. And lord and master, but some focus only on that and not He called us friends has brought us to be family.
So saying thank you friends and family directed to Jesus, The Holy Ghost and Our Father.
And His presence is felt, and He confirmed His word again and again. He called us friend and family first loves us before we did.
He wants (You) all to know He loves you, and He will confirm His word, because He is who He is in action and word and being. You can trust Him.
Recently it made sense to also reaffirm that they're friends and family. And lord and master, but some focus only on that and not He called us friends has brought us to be family.
So saying thank you friends and family directed to Jesus, The Holy Ghost and Our Father.
And His presence is felt, and He confirmed His word again and again. He called us friend and family first loves us before we did.
He wants (You) all to know He loves you, and He will confirm His word, because He is who He is in action and word and being. You can trust Him.
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>>170854
>When I pray, besides in Tongues with The Holy Ghost
>in tongues
Fuck, now is confirmed you are possessed.
Say your real name you demon.
>When I pray, besides in Tongues with The Holy Ghost
>in tongues
Fuck, now is confirmed you are possessed.
Say your real name you demon.
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>>170859
You should read your Bible.
>now is confirmed you are possessed.
Incorrect The Holy Ghost is within as He has baptized me in His fire.
Tongues as aforementioned is what anyone and everyone who is with The Holy Ghost can do.
There's that of other languages spoken commonly, but that's not what I'm talking about. God can enable people to do that.
I'm talking about what is essentially baby babbling except God is praying to God and only God knows. Unless you ask and seek to know.
With God speaking ordered noises is fully under your control and cooperation. You start doing it and you stop doing it, it's really simple.
The Holy Ghost is the gift, His fruit also is of peace, power and majesty. Such as prophecy.
Acts 11
Colossians 1
Romans 10
Romans 15:19
2 Corinthians 2-5
You'll notice I'm not citing the power, but the spirit and intent He wants to send.
Hebrews 1
Jesus is my friend and family and Lord and God. I won't deny Him. The Holy Ghost will always affirm Jesus Christ.
Ask God to affirm His Ghost, ask God to affirm Jesus. He will do it.
The Holy Spirit will always point you to Jesus.
Who you are in Him.
The Holy Ghost hits the mark on your behalf, for example when praying.
1 Thessalonians 5:12-28
You should read your Bible.
>now is confirmed you are possessed.
Incorrect The Holy Ghost is within as He has baptized me in His fire.
Tongues as aforementioned is what anyone and everyone who is with The Holy Ghost can do.
There's that of other languages spoken commonly, but that's not what I'm talking about. God can enable people to do that.
I'm talking about what is essentially baby babbling except God is praying to God and only God knows. Unless you ask and seek to know.
With God speaking ordered noises is fully under your control and cooperation. You start doing it and you stop doing it, it's really simple.
The Holy Ghost is the gift, His fruit also is of peace, power and majesty. Such as prophecy.
Acts 11
Colossians 1
Romans 10
Romans 15:19
2 Corinthians 2-5
You'll notice I'm not citing the power, but the spirit and intent He wants to send.
Hebrews 1
Jesus is my friend and family and Lord and God. I won't deny Him. The Holy Ghost will always affirm Jesus Christ.
Ask God to affirm His Ghost, ask God to affirm Jesus. He will do it.
The Holy Spirit will always point you to Jesus.
Who you are in Him.
The Holy Ghost hits the mark on your behalf, for example when praying.
1 Thessalonians 5:12-28
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>>170871
You've accepted what Jesus has done for you right?
Are you standing in Jesus or not? When you are who God says you are demons run the fuck away from you.
Walk in The Holy Ghost He'll teach you all things.
Read the New Testament.
Galatians 5:22-23
I'm not a demon or other entity of that ilk.
And even if you're not in Jesus you can call out to Jesus for help.
Otherwise improve your stank ass low quality bait.
You've accepted what Jesus has done for you right?
Are you standing in Jesus or not? When you are who God says you are demons run the fuck away from you.
Walk in The Holy Ghost He'll teach you all things.
Read the New Testament.
Galatians 5:22-23
I'm not a demon or other entity of that ilk.
And even if you're not in Jesus you can call out to Jesus for help.
Otherwise improve your stank ass low quality bait.
Hey guys! Not trying to stir the figurative pot, but I found this webpage and thought it might warrant consideration. In the preface, it states that glossolalia (speaking in tongues) was most likely deprecated after it served a purpose during the time of the New Testament, and if happened upon, is a hugely personal experience tied to one communing with the Holy Spirit.
https://www.goarch.org/-/speaking-in-tongues-an-orthodox-perspective
I think Saint Paul's careful admonition of the Corinthian variant to be illuminating: "I would like for all of you to speak in strange tongues; but I would rather that you had the gift of proclaiming God's message. For the person who proclaims God's message is of greater value than the one who speaks in strange tongues-unless there is someone who can explain what he says, so the whole Church may be edified. So when I come to you, my brethren, what use will I be to you if I speak in strange tongues? Not a bit, unless I bring to you some revelation from God or some knowledge or some inspired message or some teaching."
This statement was issued to the Christians in Corinth as they were still vaguely influenced by Dionysiac customs of divine stupor and sought to rectify their overall course, lest they wrongfully syncreticise paganism with Christ's teachings. The other major instance outlined was pertient to Pentecost, which was due to the Holy Spirit inspiring the gathered Apostles, who'd begun to speak in many languages and dialects. It's written that the many Jews who'd visited Jerusalem on that day had heard all of them and could understand what they said despite not having an intuitive knowledge of the languages being spoken. What do you all think?
https://www.goarch.org/-/speaking-in-tongues-an-orthodox-perspective
I think Saint Paul's careful admonition of the Corinthian variant to be illuminating: "I would like for all of you to speak in strange tongues; but I would rather that you had the gift of proclaiming God's message. For the person who proclaims God's message is of greater value than the one who speaks in strange tongues-unless there is someone who can explain what he says, so the whole Church may be edified. So when I come to you, my brethren, what use will I be to you if I speak in strange tongues? Not a bit, unless I bring to you some revelation from God or some knowledge or some inspired message or some teaching."
This statement was issued to the Christians in Corinth as they were still vaguely influenced by Dionysiac customs of divine stupor and sought to rectify their overall course, lest they wrongfully syncreticise paganism with Christ's teachings. The other major instance outlined was pertient to Pentecost, which was due to the Holy Spirit inspiring the gathered Apostles, who'd begun to speak in many languages and dialects. It's written that the many Jews who'd visited Jerusalem on that day had heard all of them and could understand what they said despite not having an intuitive knowledge of the languages being spoken. What do you all think?
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As Saint Paul corrected the Corinthians from only using what The Holy Ghost provides for only themselves to instead think about how to enrich others.
They're hyper focusing on over hearing private prayer and encoded prophetic message that requires an interpreter (which they forgo) as the main mode of the group. Which isn't how it's supposed to be, it's about love for one another and those lost and those who are enemies.
In private you can communicate with God. In a way you understand and in a way only The Holy Ghost knows.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRCocuHteAs
First Corinthians 14:4
As Saint Paul corrected the Corinthians from only using what The Holy Ghost provides for only themselves to instead think about how to enrich others.
They're hyper focusing on over hearing private prayer and encoded prophetic message that requires an interpreter (which they forgo) as the main mode of the group. Which isn't how it's supposed to be, it's about love for one another and those lost and those who are enemies.
In private you can communicate with God. In a way you understand and in a way only The Holy Ghost knows.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRCocuHteAs
First Corinthians 14:4