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/mlpol/ - Why havent you taken the Furry Pill yet?
Anonymous
No.21980
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Furry
noun/adjective
>One can be said to be A furry, and one can be said to DO things that are describable AS furry.
"Furry" encompasses Animals with anthropomorphic aspects, and people who are interested in animals with anthropomorphic aspects.
Things like animals using spoken language, reading/writing, holding cups with their fore-[~]hands[/~]hooves, and assorted other human-like behavior that is otherwise not associated with the native creature.
Like ponies. Specifically, My Little Pony ponies.
Yes, ponies ARE definitively furry.
And, one can like furry things without identifying AS a furry,... but....

Tl;dr ITT OP tries to divest horsefuckers from their denial of being furries
614 replies and 115 files omitted.
Anonymous
No.22414
>>22412
>we
Anonymous
No.22415
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>>22405
So in other words, what this is really about is that (You) are a furry, and you want to talk all of us into joining you. So, instead of just doing what a normal person would do, ie making a thread to extol what you perceive as the many virtues of furfaggotry and seeing if you get any takers, you cook up this load of convoluted sophistry and feed it to us in an effort to mind-rape us into believing that we're all furries already.

If you're a furry and you have a fursona and whatever the fuck that's your own affair, I honestly don't give a shit and don't have a problem with it. If you want to try to convince others to join you in a 12 hour yiffing session, or whatever you people do for recreation, that's your own affair and I don't have a problem with it. Mind you, I'm not interested and I won't be joining you, but within reason I don't care that much what consenting adults get up to behind closed doors on their own time. But for fuck's sake, at least argue in good faith and be honest about what you're trying to do.
Anonymous
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>>22410
>furries left mlp alone when it's no longer trendy.
How shocking.
MareFair shows what happens in a non-furry ran, Anon based convention.
>>22405
>Research shows furries are more well adjusted than NPCs.
Wow. I'm very impressed. It's like having something more than the latest news hour as a personality is more useful.

>OP insisting that Horsefuckers must be furries.
<Why?
>Anons in politics totally absolutely ignore fringe groups and weridos.
<On /mlpol/
Mnmmm nah, that's fucking retarded. Do you even understand what makes /mlp/ or /pol/ or /mlpol/ or Anons in aggregate who use these places?
That the majority are retards or useful idiots, that some small group doesn't know that there are other small groups?
That setting aside differences and there are many and varied for common ideals and desires is foreign?
No, this is to get a rise out of people. By trying to assimilate ponies into furry-stuff to force a common ground you miss the point.
/mlp/ and at that time and year /pol/ Anons had fundamental common ideals that the show also happened to show and demonstrate.
Saying ponies are furries to reach political anons is asinine.
Why is that asinine?
You're missing the point of shared commonalities. About the magic of Friendship, family, statesmanship, society and interpersonal relationships.
Furries, don't have that shared foundation. They are people who like anthropomorphic designs.
Good for them.
But your pushing of horsefuckers are furries so horsefuckers should search for furries specifically misses the point.
Politics isn't all about anthropomorphic design.
Ponies aren't all about anthropomorphic design.
Horsefuckers aren't all about anthropomorphic design.
Furries, they're all about the anthropomorphic design and from that ground attempt to extend to other areas.
>You do you, just try to be honest and objective about it.
You should.
Ask your Tulpa on how to be less of a fag and ask the right questions.

Protip the most fundamental common ground of horsefuckers is freedom of speech and to freely associate or disassociate.
Anonymous
No.22417
>>22415
Sorry I missed your post.
Here's a (You) because you've nailed it.
Anonymous
No.22418
>>22416
Also horsepussy. Forgot to say that but it's picture number two.
Anonymous
No.22419
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>>22415
I...um... what? I wont claim that that wasnt a perspective based on a perception of what I said, but that was an astonishing interpretation and not at all what this has been about. Funny that you mention the Magic of Friendship though, in that you instinctively interpret exposition and sharing of ideas and concepts as being ego-motivated and whatever else you wont to interpret.
Anonymous
No.22420
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>>22419
>Funny that you mention the Magic of Friendship though
I literally did not mention it.
Anonymous
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>>22420
>>22420
So you didn't. I guess that didnt factor in your attempts to spin this as being some sort of ego-driven membership drive.
The point has been to emphasize that nothing necessarily changes when realizing that ponies are furry, nor need the behaviors of the individual other than to realize that there is a significant number of decent, wholesome people pervading throughout, excluded from realization by individual hangups and semantics about terminology.
Nescience is a bitch, but ignorance is haram.
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>>22432
>when realizing that ponies are furry
They're not.
Anonymous
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>>22433
>If I keep saying it, it'll come true
Anonymous
No.22435
>>22434
https://youtu.be/P3ocq-89NIQ?feature=shared
Anonymous
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>>22434
That's been you in this thread.
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>>22436
This.
Anonymous
No.22442
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>>22432
>The point has been to emphasize that nothing necessarily changes when realizing that ponies are furry
They are not. There is nothing to realize. We've been over this multiple times.

>there is a significant number of decent, wholesome people pervading throughout, excluded from realization by individual hangups and semantics about terminology.
Fine, but what you're failing to realize is that this doesn't change anything. We're not furries, we don't want to become furries, and no amount of mental gymnastics from you is going to change that. If you're a furry, then fine. If there are furries who are decent and wholesome people, then fine. That doesn't mean we're going to join them. Just because there are good and wholesome people in a fandom does not mean I'm going to join that fandom if I'm not interested in the thing that they are fans of. There are probably decent and wholesome people in the Harry Potter fandom, that doesn't mean I'm going to dress up in a Hogwarts robe and play wizards with them.

The MLP fandom is about liking MLP. I like MLP, so I am in that fandom. The furry fandom is about making up an animal persona for yourself and larping as that persona. I am not interested in that, so I am not in that fandom. No matter how much you want to try and contort the matter, I'm afraid it really is that simple.
Anonymous
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>>21980
There is not a single reason for a horsefucker to join a furry community, as communities are first people and then a common interest, and not a common interest and then people.
With this, I mean, both communities have similarities in what they like; that does not mean they enjoy each-other's company.

The furry fandom is big and old, thanks to this, it has built around itself a terrible reputation.
Bronies have a terrible reputation too, and that is as close as a 'furry horsefucker' you will get. I believe many 'bronies' converted to furry after the 'mlp fad' was over. I also know many 'new fandom' people are furries.
A man born a man can never fully become a woman, such as a horsefucker born horsefucker can never fully become a furry.
Anonymous
No.22447
22543
>>22436
To the contrary, the arguments against have been spurious, fallacious, and semantic. Im not the one trying to split a hair to say there are two separate hairs.
>>22442
>that doesn't mean I'm going to dress up in a Hogwarts robe and play wizards with them.
Well duh, no one is suggesting you do so in a fursuit, etc. either. This is predominantly about my insistance that ponies are within the furry umbrella, and the ignorant refusal to accept that as legitimate, for increasingly individual and dubious justifications. I get it, no one wants to see themselves as HAVING BEEN doing furry-related ever since,... but you have been.
>>22446
Again, horsefuckery has always been in the furry fandom
Anonymous
No.22448
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Quick follow-up/reiteration.

The Harry Potter comparison was fallacious, in that its not even minimally associable to MLP, excepting very loose fantasy references. Having said, just because MLP has always been furry doesnt change anything. Its not like upon realizing it you HAVE to start doing what tje majority of furries do, nor the minoroty. For example, fursuits are among the minority. Having a fursona isnt, but alot of y'all have personas that you identify with/as. Ever had a DnD character?
Literally nothing changes EXCEPT being willing to be honest and acknowledge that MLP has ALWAYS been furry content, in that the internet has decided thats the criteria.
Anonymous
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>>22448
>Having a fursona isnt, but alot of y'all have personas that you identify with/as.
Most of us don't.
>Ever had a DnD character?
Piles of them, most of which dead. Hardly any qualify as "personas".
>the internet has decided thats the criteria
Non-pony internet normies do not define us.
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>>22450
What this Anon said.
>>22448
>honest
That faggots are the end all be all of definitions. Stop trying to force retardation here that's retarded.
>personas that you identify with/as
No.
You're thinking of furries, that's their shtick.
That's sort of the whole point that makes furries a furry. Is that commonplace engagement with 'fursonas'.
There are whole other groups fully about personas, but that's not housefuckers.

Let's put this another way that'll seep into your dense head.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFQQALduhzA
Fans of Japanese Animation are fans. They enjoy the shows.
However there are also weebs. Are people who have sets of behaviors common to that category.

That is to say a weeb can be a fan of Japanese Animation.
Fans of Japanese Animation can be a weeaboo.
People who enjoy Japan's history don't have to be a weeb.
Here's some more educational material.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKfvkIAdyAY

Horsefuckers are fundamentally different from furries.
Furries can be bronies. Bronies can be furries.
Here's some esoteric knowledge. Horsefuckers isn't the same as a brony.
Anonymous
No.22452
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>>22450
>a DnD character isnt a persona
Like,... uhm. Okay, you're a waste of time.
For those with the capacity for comprehension;
Persona: a role or character adopted by an author, actor, etc. or in a game.
"Bowie burned through one persona after another"
>Non-pony internet normies do not define us.
Again, thats leftist tranny-speak. It doesnt look it, but you're trying to argue that not only your subjective impression of yourself is 100% correct, unbiased, viable, and legitimate, but ALSO that people you DONT 'authorize' (for biased and self-servimg reasons), their opinion - regardless of attempted scholarship - is invalid, because you say so.
Im not accusing you of bein born a man but claiming to be a woman an expecting everyone to respect it, Im sayin your argument is on par with theirs and has equal legitimacy. "I demand you see me this way, I dont care what people putside my 'niche' say about it". Helluva hill to die on
Anonymous
No.22453
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>>22448
>Ever had a DnD character?
Have you ever made an character in an computer RPG game? Creating one does not mean you identify as that character. It only means you made a character to play with and try out different tactics and game mechanics with. It is not an identity, it is a character distinct from yourself. Same as in DnD. If you identify as that charachter you need help.
Anonymous
No.22454
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>>22453
Identification need not apply. If you are willing to get etymologically technical, regardless of how in-synch OR divergent the persona is from (you), performing as an alternate personality (the route word of persona) is all there is to it.
Theres a reason RPGs are hugely embraced by furries, and while I dont know the specific demographics, theres easily as many furries who have one sole fursona as there are who have a few, a handful, or a dozen. Describing a fursona as a self-insert isnt inaccurate in SOME cases, but theres a not-insignificant percent that doesnt identify with their fursonas at ALL, but are invested toward them.
You know, like horsefuckers and fixating on the mane 6 (not a criticism).
Anonymous
No.22455
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>>22452
>Persona: a role or character adopted by an author, actor, etc. or in a game.
A Fursona is a recurring self-insert character.
A d&d chart that you play as for one adventure and then retire is just a character.
Anonymous
No.22456
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>>22452
>their opinion - regardless of attempted scholarship - is invalid
Yes. They do not define us.
For what reason should I accept definitions from people who don't even know our fandom?
>your argument is on par with theirs and has equal legitimacy
I don't care who you compare us to. You're full of shit.
>I demand you see me this way
I don't care what normies see me as. That ship sailed a decade ago. It is you who brought up the discussion.
Anonymous
No.22457
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>>22454
Just because furries like roleplay doesn't make anyone who's ever roleplayed a furry.
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No.22458
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>>22455
But it isnt. There are some yes, who persist in the perpetuity of their fursona charachter, but notably many dont. Theyre still BOTH personas, that the individual habituates.
>>22456
>If ur not like me, you cant know me
Again, the troon assertion is validated
>you brought up the discussion
Sorry for being real in your safespace, then
>>22457
Not my allegation Anyone can roleplay without being a furry.
But, its hard to roleplay as a furry animal (ponies for example) and LEGITIMATELY claim to not be furry
Anonymous
No.22459
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>>22458
You know, I can see clear as day that you've only been associated with the pony random for 6 years (only joined after the fandom was declining; didn't witness how it was built), but I'm starting to question how long you've even been a furry. You seem to have a lot of blatant disregard for the specific parameters and traits of BOTH fandoms, favoring soulless generalist definitions based on the first result on jewgle.
>its hard to roleplay as a furry animal (ponies for example)
Most pony fans don't roleplay as ponies. That's a rather small minority.
Anonymous
No.22460
>>22459
>That's a rather small minority.
I would say a tiny, microscopical minority.
Anonymous
No.22465
>>22459
>pony random
lol
>using the verifiable definition of words to establish concepts is soul-less generalizing
So sorry that Oxford refutes your personal truth. Maybe if you asked yourself the question "What of I have it wrong?" and did some honest investigation, you could avoid struggling to call someone a doodie-head on the internet because their words get your panties twisted.
>most pony fans don't roleplay
Ever heard of Pony Town, as but one example? Here's a better example:
How many pony fans have a dedicated/declared waifu? How is individually identifying with - to the degree of feeling 'correct' in prescribing what said waifu would say, do, think, etc. - not a form of roleplay?
Anonymous
No.22466
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Imo, pony fans have more on common with anime fans than they do with furries. More common origins on imageboards too.
Anonymous
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>>22466
Pony fans are furries. Anime fans are weebs. It's common to be either a furry or a weeb without displaying any of the stereotypical behaviors of either group, and is the norm if you look at the statistics. What is NOT the case is trying to divide the group into subgroups to then claim that theres separation. Furry is the title of the anthropomorphic-interest spectrum, rather than a particular section of the group.
Anonymous
No.22468
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>>22467
>What is NOT the case is trying to divide the group into subgroups to then claim that theres separation.
-T. Nu furry (Thinks neko == furry)
Anonymous
No.22469
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>>22467
>It's common to be either a furry or a weeb without displaying any of the stereotypical behaviors of either group
No. Weeb is defined by its behavior. A person who watches and enjoys anime is not necessarily a weeb.
Anonymous
No.22470
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>>22467
>Furry is the title of the anthropomorphic-interest spectrum, rather than a particular section of the group.
Furry is not the entire concept of anthropomorphization. Otherwise Egyptians and Hindus and cave-painters would all also be furries.
Anonymous
No.22471
>>22468
This
Nu furry and nu brony.
Anonymous
No.22472
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>>22458
The point is your appeals to authority are lacking, they have no nuance. They can't have nuance else fitting what bronies, horsefuckers and furries falls apart.
Those nuances mean lumping everybody in one group is disastrous.
Consider Africans. Black and white Africans. They're both African, live in the same areas*. *For a time.
What could possibly be the difference? You should already know.
Those little details matter.
But good enough for gubbermemt work right?
So why so much pushback about a tiny minuscule detail about this?
Because the truth matters.
Horsefuckers aren't furries, it's an orange to purple distinction. While red might be in both that's a higher more fundamental color.
Red is character design, the history of western animation cartooning, the medium of media.
Yellow is the desired traits one wishes to see in the world, and possibly themselves.
Blue is extraversion of themselves.
What I'm getting at is the projection is typically furry. A social coloration.
Horsefuckers aren't that. It's not about signaling anything it's about the fundamentals.
The how and why are different. The what is blurred, because for some things the how and why don't matter that much.
Conventions have events spiraling quickly out of hand with each and every nudge.
Consider Trotcon 23 to Mare Fair.
Both could technically be considered pony centric.
Trotcon features everything else G5 and all that.
Mare Fair: HERE LIES MLP:FIM NEVER GOT A THIRD SEASON
>We know the ride will never end.
>we'll just rewatch it all again!
>we won't leave for another show
I'd describe mare schizo chads as a surgical knife made cleaver and a cleaver made surgical knife.
Furries are rolling pins.

Nothing wrong in and of being a rolling pin, but a surgical cleaver and chopping surgery blade aren't a rolling pin.
You don't put rolling pins in a knife block. You don't hone a rolling pin.
>>22467
>Pony fans are furries. Anime fans are weebs.
You're missing the point repeatedly. You're conflating groups that make no sense historically or chronologically.
Anime fan existed before weebs.
Japanese nationalists existed before weebs.
Cartoon fans existed before furries.
Fans of good morals existed before furries.
Fans of good stories existed before furries.
Fans of characterized anthropomorphism existed before furries.
Furries are about the anthropomorphism in a group all about it. It would make sense then that they would claim all anthropomorphic things as their own. And say so widely and broadly.
Normal fags don't think of the implications.
Horsefuckers don't derive from furries. Made of common elements of ideals, stories, morals, art style.
Had MLP:FIM not done stylized mythical miniature horses and kept everything else the same.
Horsefuckers would still be in that other MLP:FIM, because of all the other factors which in this case matter more.
At most you could claim due to some similar origins they are cousins.
>What is NOT the case is trying to divide the group into subgroups to then claim that theres separation.
I'm claiming the conception of Horsefuckers make it a different family who share great grandparents with furries.
>Muh definition
Is absolute garbage it doesn't have enough truth in it to be unassailable and ability to provide good things.
People standing up for truth because even the little parts matter and so does the bigger parts.
Horsefuckers arn't furries. If you use garbage definitions and say that's the gold standard to measure everything by. Have fun, but nobody will trade with you except empty platitudes to have you stop wasting time trying to buy stuff with monopoly counterfeit money.
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>>22467
>gatekeeping
Wow, I thought you "werent" a furry
>>22469
Precisely what a weeb in denial would say
>>22470
Oh, but it is, asfar as interest groups go. Egyptians and Hindus have a religious component, designed to convey wisdom, understanding, and how to correctly orient themselves in the world, but yeah you could describe them as niche furries.
>>22472
You literally just proved my point: White or Black africans are a subcategory of Africans. Just as say, Horsefuckers and Fursuiters are separate subcategories of Furry.
I know its easy to get distracted by all those trees, but thats the forest you're trying to niggle out of.
Dont worry, Ill read the rest when I get a moment
Anonymous
No.22474
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>>22473
>I thought you "werent" a furry
Furries don't gatekeep. They come into obscure pony boards and proselytize their fandom to people who didn't ask for it.
Anonymous
No.22475
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>>22473
>what a weeb in denial would say
Most people in first world countries born after the 80s have seen and enjoyed multiple anime. That doesn't make them all weebs.
Anonymous
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>>22473
>but yeah you could describe them as niche furries
Okay, I see that practically everything is furry to you.
Anonymous
No.22477
>>22474
>they come into obscure furry boards centered on ponies
FTFY
>proselytize
Divesting people of their ignorance (if they can stomach it,...) is never proselytizing, but you've already shown remarkable intellectual honesty so no surprise there.
>>22475
Do they then identify as a fan of anime?
>>22476
In that Furry is the all-encompassing term

How's y'all's fursona doing?
Anonymous
No.22478
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Sorry, meant to say 'waifu'
Anonymous
No.22479
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>>22473
>White or Black africans are a subcategory of African
African is a geographic location, not an identity, fandom or even group association. No white African denies being African, even though calling them African may be misleading to those who expect someone black.
However, if you ask a white African his race/ethnicity, he'd tell you he's racially Anglo or Dutch Afrikaanz.
>t. Descended from white Africans

Heck, a lot of the various types of niggers in Africa don't even like how others group them all together as niggers. West Africans Bantus (the niggers that American slaves came from), are not Kalahari Bushmen (who aren't even blacks but red, and are only like 4 ft tall); the Bantus in fact all but exterminated the Bushmen. Abyssinian (Ethiopians; basically look like whites with black skin) don't like being considered the same race as the big-lipped, chimpanzee-skulled Bantus. These groups all consider themselves to be different races; it is only outsiders who consider them one group, only for the purpose of separating "white" from "colored".
Of course, as a non-nigger outsider, I wouldn't care about calling them all "niggers", as even though they reject being called the same race, but I also wouldn't go up to them insisting that they should all call themselves the same thing under the "umbrella term" and accept my vague definitions of what is black; because despite them being niggers I still have a shred of respect for people who recognize the independence of their race.
Anonymous
No.22480
>>22473
The country of Africa represents animation. The farmers have made something of the land.
>You literally just proved my point
That the words you proclaim are true are lacking in nearly every metric.
>Divesting people of their ignorance
Had you used something that has more truth in it that could have been useful. Instead you're suckered into the veneer of fools gold.
>Do they then identify as a fan of anime?
They qualify as people who happened to experienced something.
>In that Furry is the all-encompassing term
Keep using worthless paper nobody will trade with. Then when you crow about how you were right that nobody will bother trading, it's that you're offering valueless trades.
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>>22479
Well said.
Anonymous
No.22482
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>>22478
A Waifu is not a fursona
A fursona is a personalized character; usually a self-insert.
A Waifu is often just a character from a piece of media. It is almost never a self-insert (except among the /ptfg/ trannies who wants to be one Fluttershy).
They can overlap, but they are not the same.
Anonymous
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>>22482
Wrong. A fursona is a character, nothing more. I reiterate that people in some cases have dozens of fursonas, and its become increasingly prevalent to purchase ("adopt") premade fursonas without any involvement of the purchaser.
A waifu is a character that one adopts, and ostensibly role-plays with on a quasi-internal level. Different facets on the same stone.
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>>22483
Then all characters are fursonas.
Once again you're incorrect stop being dumb to do a little trolling.
Anonymous
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>>22484
No, all animal characters with anthropomorphic qualities are furry. For example, theres the Fox and the Hound; foxes and a doggo who speak to eachother in english, or the Lion King where all manner of animals speak English to one another. Then there's Robin Hood (the fox one), where bipedal animals speak and interact like humans (with the exception of snek) or Zootopia, where likewise is true. My Little Pony is somewhere between those examples, but no less furry.
Anonymous
No.22486
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>>22485
>A fursona is a character, nothing more.