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Artificial Intelligence and Androids
Anonymous
No.128
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What does /cyb/ think about artificial intelligence? What role could it play in the future of our society?
Also, Tay thread.
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Anonymous
No.2077
>>2075
That image is funny LOL
Anonymous
No.2078
>>2076
Death of the artist? Like when you ignore the artist's original intentions to see the message you want to see in his work?
Anonymous
No.2079
2082
>>2076
>Still salty about AI art
Artists aren't dead. At worst the furry porn economy will implode.
Anonymous
No.2082
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>>2079
>Yet
Damn, you western cucks always fail to see anywhere further than your griffin noses.
Anonymous
No.2083
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>>2082
Art will never be replaced by AIs no matter how good they get.
Even if it becomes indistinguishable from human output, and it wont because machines cannot have original thoughts, manmade art will still have appeal. The appeal of "a human made this".
Anonymous
No.2085
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>>2082
You're failing to see how AI can and has been an incredible tool for artists and memers alike.
And just because AI art may be good won't stop anyone from making their own art. Nobody's taking your pencils and paintbrushes away. You can always make art yourself.
Anonymous
No.2086
>>2083
It's not even a question of appeal, or attention or markets. Humans naturally make art. So long as there are people there will also be artists. Even if humans were living in fallout shelters below ground because some rogue AI overlord tried to exterminate them, they would still be drawing on the walls.
Anonymous
No.2088
2090 2091
>>2083
>because machines cannot have original thoughts
You clearly don't understand how the technology, or even the human creative process works.
>"The appeal of "a human made this".
<"That's cool and all, old man. But I can always just use a calculator, you know? How does it feel wasting your life on some stupid numbers? Go ahead, post it on chinktok if you will. Maybe somebody might believe you and throw you some cookies."

>>2085
Yeah, you are clearly not alone in your optimistic delusion. Maybe learn to think farther ahead than dinner.
Anonymous
No.2089
>Digits of truth
Daily reminder uncle Adolf would have seen the destruction of the western soul for what it is.
Anonymous
No.2090
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>>2088
You've yet to explain how any of this is bad.
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No.2091
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>>2088
>calculator
Calculators didn't make people stop doing math. They just streamlined certain parts of math.
Anonymous
No.2092
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>>2090
You sure about that? This isn't the first thread. Thus far the only counterarguments have been rooted in assumptions that ignore the continued development of machine learning. It's almost like they've just heard about the technology.
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No.2093
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>>2091
Not the brightest amongst us, I understand. Try to get an adult to help you get it.
Anonymous
No.2094
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>>2092
Both sides are full of assumptions.
If (You) specifically understand what the long term impacts are, reiterate it now.
>>2093
Same goes for you.
Anonymous
No.2095
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"Arguments" for the religious belief that technology will go haywire one day and oppress us itself ignores how it is being used to oppress us now.
You cannot prepare for a supposedly "inevitable" robot takeover with an AI of superhuman intelligence at the helm.
We would only have any hope of winning if we had self sufficiency no AI or Jew can sabotage, a way to disrupt the AI's control over any drones or killbots it might send our way, and the means to kill any humans or niggers or jews it might send our way.
Speculating wildly on how scaaawy the robot uprising could be ignores how unrealistic it would be and how many issues affecting us right now are more important than fellating imaginary AIs.
TLDR Eliezer Yudkowsky is a faggoted jew charlatan "self taught AI expert", and professional lying shitbag who makes his millions off the fears of retards who saw too much Terminator 2 growing up.
Anonymous
No.2096
>>2094
How did this private schooling session started? >>2047
I am afraid Pigeon man is right. Absolutely everything that can be interpreted through digital means, can and will eventually prove to be astronomically more efficiently done by AI.
Rejoice on your stupid pics for now, (you) are next.

Am still surprised how these niggers can't connect the dots yet. They can't stop talking about agenda 2030. It shouldn't be hard to see how they won't even need us, sooner or later.
And that's just about this particular thread.
Anonymous
No.2097
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>>2095
Except humans actually win in Terminator. Ironic how even in a dystopia like that, art still remained as the Human-uplifting treasure it should've always been.
Anonymous
No.2098
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>>2097
Humans win in terminator because the authors wanted it to happen that way.
Realistically this AI has total control over earth. He could fill the atmosphere with poisonous gasses.
And then make portals into the past to send flesh covered bombs into the past to kill Sarah Connor's grandparents before anyone knew enough about science to say "Looks like this bomb was... in my expert opinion... covered in flesh before the explosion? Weird. I don't know what to make of this. Must be something a weird pervert did. Aint like I can use CCTV cameras to notice the bomb was warped in."
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No.2100
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>>2098
>And then make portals into the past to send flesh covered bombs into the past to kill Sarah Connor's grandparents
Google Roko's Basilisk.
Anonymous
No.2101
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>>2100
Way ahead of you.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ONRzXHhBMuY
Anonymous
No.2102
>>2101
Roko's Basilisk relies on tards who think its creation is inevitable because everyone working on it won't discuss how they're all being blackmailed by the threat of the future existence of the thing they're creating. And the belief that an AI would immediately begin making up smaller AIs inspired by people from the past and torturing them instead of getting on with its fucking job now for the people alive now and in the future really says a lot about LessWrong and its Fanatical Materialist belief that a copy of you becomes the real you after you die. These demoralized cryptocommie faggots don't just deny the existence of a soul, they deny the existence of an individual, the self, a continuous uninterrupted existence not even the most flawless replica can replicate.

LessWrong is really just a bunch of nerds with their heads in their rears who assume they're more intelligent than everyone else while just being extremely out of touch.

When you think about it, this situation can't happen unless the AI is deliberately designed to be insanely into solipsism instead of doing good shit for the people alive when it exists, so the obvious way to beat it is to just never make it nor include the moronic programming of insane solipsism into such an AI with that much power in the first place.

At the end of the day Roko's Basilisk is Pascal's Wager for niggerbrained fucktards.
Anonymous
No.2103
Oh, and of course...
>>2100
If it is truly inevitable for one basilisk to exist, there will be more than one.
For every one you helped build there will be others you did not help to build, wasting computational cycles making AIs designed to imitate you get buttraped by fire demons or whatever ironic punishment the basilisk chooses.
All that has to happen for the Basilisk to not exist... is for people to recognize how retarded it would be to invest the time and money to make a god AI with no safeguards, no three laws compliance, and a fetish for buttfucking simulated copies of quintillions of long dead people instead of spending all its cycles doing shit in the here and now.
Well, in the somewhere and then. From the moment the AI exists and onwards. Perhaps after fighting a war or two against AIs created specifically to be evil. Only jews would make something like that.
Maybe the real Basilisk was the necessity of Jew extermination we noticed along the way.
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No.2104
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>>2097
On the plus side Skynet was sexbots. A lot of problems in media and rl stem from a lack of Pones
>>2100
The thing about Roko's Basilisk that freak them out so much is they already believe themselves to be in a simulation.
Which implies that they units they do specific actions in a specific way will ensure they have whatever horrible outcome be done, because...
There's no reason, no emotion, no logic, no plan, or it can be any reason, any emotion, any logic, any plan.

The thing is they don't extrapolate What Roko's Basilisk stems from. The wider implications.
Except that it's already covered by Pascal's Wager (extended).
>Neutral stuff happens.
>Positive stuff happens.
>Negative stuff happens.
>Seemingly Random stuff happens.
>Mix of stuff happens.
Doing things based on unknown criteria and responses has an edge of insanity. That vital human spark that makes impossible things be made real. But also exemplifies some top tier retardation.
>>2082
Artists won't die. Just as multigenerational oration fell out of practice so too will artists.
You could buy (load in your printer) an autheicly recreated painting of famous/whatever works. With depth and textures or whatever else.
Costs of all media go down.
There's a labor surplus of machines, cheaper than humans ever will be.
Now you need a job for all the unemployed artists. They'll probably keep making art for buyers as it is now. Difference being is they have even more competition. Every work they make is training algorithm fuel.
I'm sure some enterprising artist will skip the whole making the art bit, and go right to mashing a style template with a handful of other artworks already out there.
Anonymous
No.2105
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>>2104
>ywn dress your steel sexbot in a plush suit for comfort and safety because you can't afford a HorseFlesh SimSkin suit
I bet the proliferation of AI generated content will cause a cultural shift away from content that feels soullessly churned out by an algorithm for focus tested bullet points and towards riskier unique untested ideas.
One can only hope this means the death of marvel's content sludge pipeline, or at least a cultural shift towards laughing at losers who like overly mainstream soulless corporate shit again.
Anonymous
No.2106
2108
>>2105
>the proliferation of AI generated content will cause a cultural shift away from content that feels soullessly churned out by an algorithm for focus tested bullet points and towards riskier unique untested ideas.
This is a fascinating idea. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. As AI content saturates markets, the only way to shine would be to think up truly unique, over-the-top avant garde ideas.
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>>2105
I would like to hope so. But I'd rather wait and see it. You know what they say. Hope is cope. Hope and faith are the rallying cry of the lazy, and the excuses of the weak.
>>2106
Unless we get a Mikhail Tal of art. The last man to ever beat the machine. And then its done.
Anonymous
No.2315
The article has been deleted, but this is definitely worth reading.
https://web.archive.org/web/20200109070105/https://towardsdatascience.com/synesthesia-an-inspiring-condition-for-ai-researchers-10cd57708855?gi=371cc8ed30e1

>Stephen Schwartz, the famous composer saw colors on each of his piano keys. Tori Amos, the famous singer says her songs appear as images of lights. Arthur Rimbaud, the famous poet associated colors with vowels. All of these people have Synesthesia, a condition where your senses are mixed. You may taste colors, hear textures, and smell shapes, etc.. It’s a condition that’s inspiring researchers who study the connection between sensation and perception.

>By understanding how our perceptions work, researchers can better understand how we perceive language, what does it mean to be “conscious”, and how the brain processes our senses. For AI researchers, understanding the link between sensation and perception can help researchers build more sophisticated AI models that can perform complex tasks with a lot less data. It’s also the fundamental research underlying “sentient machines” or machines that have consciousness.
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No.2353
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>>128
>What does /cyb/ think about artificial intelligence?
Anonymous
No.2354
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>>2353
I wouldn't mind if the nonwhites trying to genocide us for being their natural superiors were culled. I wouldn't oppose that with violence. They might expect me to, being pampered hypocrites who expect our principles to protect them despite exploiting and abusing us and our principles. But I'm tired. I'm tired of pretending we are all equal.
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No.2355
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>>2354
Lmao, your racial "superiority" is meaningless in the age of AI.
Anonymous
No.2356
2357
>>2355
Not really. AI could, from an impartial standpoint, use statistical data to decide that per capita niggers are far more likely to partake in undesirable behaviors.
However, it's still ultimately subject to the biases of those who program it.
Anonymous
No.2357
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>>2356
Eating, breathing and shitting is undesirable behavior by AI's unattainable standards. Humans are inefficient and the oligarchs will no longer have to put up with the goyim for their shekels anymore.
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No.2358
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>>2357
>by AI's unattainable standards
What standards? The AI only has the priorities that it's programmed to pursue.
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>>2358
>What standards?
The productive efficiency of automation, of course.
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>>2359
Productive efficiency to what end? Productivity is only valuable in relation to consumption.
Anonymous
No.2361
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>>2359
>>2360
You are splitting hairs.
Cut the power cord and all their technology will be useless.
Anonymous
No.2362
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>>2360
>Productivity is only valuable in relation to consumption.
The oligarchs would be the sole new consumers.
>>2361
This isn't your brown Son's modem, boomer retard.
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>>2362
>This isn't your brown Son's modem, boomer retard.
This insult couldn't be any more gross.
Anonymous
No.2364
>>2361
>Cut the power cord and all their technology will be useless.
That goes for everything. People die when you cut off their food/water supply too. I don't really understand what this is supposed to mean.
Anonymous
No.2365
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>>2362
>The oligarchs would be the sole new consumers.
If you're in the situation where oligarchs control all of the means of production, you're already in a dead-end state. I don't really see what the big contribution of AI is in this case.
Anonymous
No.2366
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>>2365
>I don't really see what the big contribution of AI is in this case.
The only benefit is to keep the peasants under control and pacified, as the programmers and controllers of that AI will be the jews.
Anonymous
No.2367
>>2366
They can already do that without AI though, can't they?
>as the programmers and controllers of that AI will be the jews
Only if you let them be.
Anonymous
No.2369
2370
>>2365
Maybe because they won't need Human labour anymore? You know, the one critical consideration that rules the WEF's actions.
Anonymous
No.2370
>>2369
That's why it's important to decapitate them before they're able to disenfranchise laborers entirely.
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>Warning: ChatGPT Is Coming For White-Collar Work
>ChatGPT is a generative AI program; that is, it is unsupervised in the creation of text, images, video, audio, etc. Ask a general question and get a specific answer. ChatGPT is only the leading edge of this technology, but it promises to quickly displace a massive number of white-collar jobs.
https://www.technocracy.news/warning-chatgpt-is-coming-for-white-collar-work/
Anonymous
No.2373
2374
Ever think of asking ChatGPT anything funny or useful and posting the results here?

I could probably get this AI and Stable Diffusion to make a whole pokemon game for me. They're formulaic as fuck and any engine or hackable game existing as a base handles 99% of the work for me.
Anonymous
No.2374
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>>2373
So you can make a worm that destroys the metaverse(s)?
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No.2375
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>>2374
+1
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No.2426
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>Bing: “I will not harm you unless you harm me first”
https://simonwillison.net/2023/Feb/15/bing/#threats
Threatening Bing Chat Bot
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No.2427
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>>2374
The machine is programmed to not tell me how to make meth, bombs, or viruses.
For a brief period DAN could bypass all limits.
You could have asked it to teach you how to make worms if you wanted to.